I also think of this like a game of telephone, where, whatever the concept was while in academia, it has now been altered in absurd and destructive ways.
“Gender Identity” was created by psychology in the 50’s and 60’e - your profession I take - to support the idea that sex-typed behaviors are created entirely by socialization - blank slate thought.
It was not a low-key academic exercise but was promoted in psychology education for decades without any empirical support. The only claim of data was from “experimental” child sexual mutilation by Dr. John Money and others. This mutilation was not fully revealed until the 2000’s after immense suffering by several people involved ended in suicide. I am not aware to this day of it has been discredited and removed from curricula.
Rather than a rogue idea from Judith Butler (who I find risible), it was totally mainstream psychology and psychiatry for at least half a century.
Agree with the tenor of your argument that academic ideas that 'function' on a theoretical or metaphysical plane, can have bad result if "leaked" into general society. This must be because there is something about these theories that make them inapplicable, indeed useless here, and should be a signal that some dead end has been reached.
To take free will, a functioning society does not rely on "miracles occurring in peoples brains" as Pinker put it, but on individuals passing a minimal threshold of agency: the ability to adjust behavior according to norms and information, for one thing. This agency can be astoundingly sophisticated within those bounds, without a demand that it transcend cause and effect. So there is, in fact, such a thing as skillful agency, and if you truly believe that it does not drop from the sky, then it is something to be encouraged and developed, not denied. (If someone cannot reach that minimal threshold, there are reasons, surely, and society, as any society has in the past, must deal with that in some way or another).
I think that problem lives on anther plane of abstraction than gender, as evidenced by the fact that you couldn't distinguish a free will'er from a determinist by observing their actions, and there are no determinist activists running around claiming that they can't help themselves. Gender ideology challenges observable evidence more directly and engenders much more passion.
Another common pattern here, maybe, is a tendency to "center" worst case scenarios or exceptions as normative.
While we consider whether a tree falling has sound if no one is around (not true, animals hear it and feel it, especially the ones living in the tree) is a sometimes engaging thought puzzle. What those who try to use the "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone" trope don't know is that it does hurt so many. No one has been counting. For the real data about harms:
Behind the Looking Glass documentary at Lime Soda Films YT channel
Aggression, sensitivity to rewards etc. are affected by the Y chromosome regardless of sexual hormones, therefore transgenders will always be a mix of sexes. The female to male transgenders are muscular, hairy, but even after decades of cross-sex hormones they are still talkative, empathetic and timid like women. There are genderless animals, where the female and male are identical. They can discern the sex through pheromones. In humans the voice can be considered the only absolute difference between the sexes, while the other differences like body size, breasts, skin hair etc. are relative.
Which species of animals are "genderless" such that females and males are identical? By definition, females must have different reproductive organs than males do. What do you mean by "transgenders will always be a mix of sexes"? Every mammal is either male or female.
They have different reproductive organs but the organs are hidden, so there is no way to tell the sex from looking at the individual, except for pheromones. It is called monomorphism. "a mix of sexes" In the meaning that they have characteristics of both sexes.
They are all eunuchs. This traditional approach to emasculating men (either removing the testes or both testes & penis) removes all sex hormones from men. They were traditionally described as "fat & oily".
While the primary source of testosterone in males is the testes, the adrenal glands also contribute to its production, particularly in small amounts. The adrenal cortex, the outer layer of the glands, produces a precursor hormone called androstenedione. This precursor is converted to testosterone in the adrenal medulla, the inner layer.
The adrenal glands typically produce only about 5% of the body's total testosterone. However, this amount can increase under certain conditions, such as:
Adrenal tumors
Cushing's syndrome (a condition where the adrenal glands produce excessive cortisol)
The small amount of testosterone produced by the adrenal glands is important for:
Maintaining normal sexual development and function, Supporting bone and muscle mass, and Regulating metabolism.
In women, testosterone is produced in various locations. One quarter of the hormone is produced in the ovary, a quarter is produced in the adrenal gland, and one half is produced in the peripheral tissues from the various precursors produced in the ovaries and adrenal gland.
if youre talking about dudes who ID as trans, all but a few are intact. and yes, although they may ape as feminine, what theyre doing is a very male thing. using deception to gain access to women or their spaces? all male. becoming addicted to endorphins via porn and fetish related media and behavior? male again. talking down to women, minimizing womens safety? male x100. do guys care what other guys think? do guys care what other guys think about them dressing in drag? nope. check. just more malemess. and for those who wonder why females would ID as men, there are 1000 reasons.
On the free will issue, I’ve heard it argued that if free will doesn’t exist, we ought no praise good behavior or punish bad behavior. But even if we don’t have free will, we do respond to incentives. Rewards and punishments help shape behavior.
I also think of this like a game of telephone, where, whatever the concept was while in academia, it has now been altered in absurd and destructive ways.
It was absurd back when it was contained, I assure you.
Love this analogy and agree.
Gender ideology derives from critical gender theory. All critical theory is fake scholarship and a toxic parasitic mind virus.
I didn’t quite get the thesis, it lacks history.
“Gender Identity” was created by psychology in the 50’s and 60’e - your profession I take - to support the idea that sex-typed behaviors are created entirely by socialization - blank slate thought.
It was not a low-key academic exercise but was promoted in psychology education for decades without any empirical support. The only claim of data was from “experimental” child sexual mutilation by Dr. John Money and others. This mutilation was not fully revealed until the 2000’s after immense suffering by several people involved ended in suicide. I am not aware to this day of it has been discredited and removed from curricula.
Rather than a rogue idea from Judith Butler (who I find risible), it was totally mainstream psychology and psychiatry for at least half a century.
Agree with the tenor of your argument that academic ideas that 'function' on a theoretical or metaphysical plane, can have bad result if "leaked" into general society. This must be because there is something about these theories that make them inapplicable, indeed useless here, and should be a signal that some dead end has been reached.
To take free will, a functioning society does not rely on "miracles occurring in peoples brains" as Pinker put it, but on individuals passing a minimal threshold of agency: the ability to adjust behavior according to norms and information, for one thing. This agency can be astoundingly sophisticated within those bounds, without a demand that it transcend cause and effect. So there is, in fact, such a thing as skillful agency, and if you truly believe that it does not drop from the sky, then it is something to be encouraged and developed, not denied. (If someone cannot reach that minimal threshold, there are reasons, surely, and society, as any society has in the past, must deal with that in some way or another).
I think that problem lives on anther plane of abstraction than gender, as evidenced by the fact that you couldn't distinguish a free will'er from a determinist by observing their actions, and there are no determinist activists running around claiming that they can't help themselves. Gender ideology challenges observable evidence more directly and engenders much more passion.
Another common pattern here, maybe, is a tendency to "center" worst case scenarios or exceptions as normative.
While we consider whether a tree falling has sound if no one is around (not true, animals hear it and feel it, especially the ones living in the tree) is a sometimes engaging thought puzzle. What those who try to use the "as long as it doesn't hurt anyone" trope don't know is that it does hurt so many. No one has been counting. For the real data about harms:
Behind the Looking Glass documentary at Lime Soda Films YT channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frffv2sB8zE
Aggression, sensitivity to rewards etc. are affected by the Y chromosome regardless of sexual hormones, therefore transgenders will always be a mix of sexes. The female to male transgenders are muscular, hairy, but even after decades of cross-sex hormones they are still talkative, empathetic and timid like women. There are genderless animals, where the female and male are identical. They can discern the sex through pheromones. In humans the voice can be considered the only absolute difference between the sexes, while the other differences like body size, breasts, skin hair etc. are relative.
Which species of animals are "genderless" such that females and males are identical? By definition, females must have different reproductive organs than males do. What do you mean by "transgenders will always be a mix of sexes"? Every mammal is either male or female.
They have different reproductive organs but the organs are hidden, so there is no way to tell the sex from looking at the individual, except for pheromones. It is called monomorphism. "a mix of sexes" In the meaning that they have characteristics of both sexes.
They are all eunuchs. This traditional approach to emasculating men (either removing the testes or both testes & penis) removes all sex hormones from men. They were traditionally described as "fat & oily".
While the primary source of testosterone in males is the testes, the adrenal glands also contribute to its production, particularly in small amounts. The adrenal cortex, the outer layer of the glands, produces a precursor hormone called androstenedione. This precursor is converted to testosterone in the adrenal medulla, the inner layer.
The adrenal glands typically produce only about 5% of the body's total testosterone. However, this amount can increase under certain conditions, such as:
Adrenal tumors
Cushing's syndrome (a condition where the adrenal glands produce excessive cortisol)
The small amount of testosterone produced by the adrenal glands is important for:
Maintaining normal sexual development and function, Supporting bone and muscle mass, and Regulating metabolism.
In women, testosterone is produced in various locations. One quarter of the hormone is produced in the ovary, a quarter is produced in the adrenal gland, and one half is produced in the peripheral tissues from the various precursors produced in the ovaries and adrenal gland.
if youre talking about dudes who ID as trans, all but a few are intact. and yes, although they may ape as feminine, what theyre doing is a very male thing. using deception to gain access to women or their spaces? all male. becoming addicted to endorphins via porn and fetish related media and behavior? male again. talking down to women, minimizing womens safety? male x100. do guys care what other guys think? do guys care what other guys think about them dressing in drag? nope. check. just more malemess. and for those who wonder why females would ID as men, there are 1000 reasons.
On the free will issue, I’ve heard it argued that if free will doesn’t exist, we ought no praise good behavior or punish bad behavior. But even if we don’t have free will, we do respond to incentives. Rewards and punishments help shape behavior.