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Paving the Way's avatar

"The psychotherapy profession has oversold change and undersold acceptance." This is at the root of the trans contagion.

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Park Place's avatar

Not true. I am a member of the profession and am very much on the side of caution and believe history is already debunking many falsehoods on the topic, as this article nicely lays out.

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Paving the Way's avatar

I am a member as well. What are your thoughts about the acceptance vs. change assumption in psychotherapy generally?

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R J's avatar

What are the positions of the organizations that represent or accredit psychotherapists?

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Park Place's avatar

I’m a psychiatrist but no longer a member of the APA. I looked up your question and this two year old position came up: https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/About-APA/Organization-Documents-Policies/Policies/Position-Transgender-Gender-Diverse-Youth.pdf

I sure hope they revisit it in light of recent studies. They drink the same coolaid. And those active in the APA are not likely representative of the rank and file.

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Park Place's avatar

I think that many seasoned and older therapists would be cautious in nature. I suppose I would find a way to ask in a screening call if the therapist believes those questioning their gender should be encouraged to switch, or encouraged to talk and their issues in general.

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Lhfry's avatar

Use “synthetic sexual identities “ or “ideation” instead of the terms pushed by the industry.

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jamie b.'s avatar

“synthetic sexual identities “

Excellent!

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Christopher Moss's avatar

The role of social media in the phenomenon of ROGD should not be underestimated, and it is not too much to say that social media and smartphones have driven a great deal of suffering into young lives. And not just in this field of gender medicine - the positive feedback of the "spoonie" community is creating no end of young people who believe they have Ehlers-Danlos and other unlikely diagnoses for example.

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Forest's avatar

100% agree. My niece started secondary school (age 12) and met a bunch of other girls and became a circle of 6 inner and 12 outer friends, young teen dynamics, right? Well, they're all in a WhatsApp group calling themselves all flavour of qwerty. None of them are that far advanced along in puberty, all in the braces and awkwardness stage, a couple on the autistic spectrum. It really is this generations' raver or indie kid. It's a scene. Fair enough for the kid who's genuinely gay, it's good that it's more accepted now. But we never before medicalised kids for being part of a scene.

It's something to do with youth worship, I'm sure. Kidults of 40 being all 'Hello, fellow kids' .

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

One has to believe this craze is all about the $$$$ in the medical and pharma industries, because morality, common sense, intelligence, caring about children seems to have nothing to do with it. If the medical profession is so easily brainwashed by extreme advocates of the hideous treatment and torture they perform on innocent and confused and maladjusted children, then all I can say is stay as far away from them as you possibly can. Matt Walsh's "What is a Woman" showcased some of these lunatics - their unctuous superiority and holier-than-thou attitudes indicate they have zero moral foundation.

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R J's avatar

There are no doubt a few profiteers, and a bunch more people who have no incentive to resist, but I am sad to say that there are legions of steadfast true believers that have been absorbing this ideology for decades. They care deeply about promoting it and they are loud and influential in their professional and social contexts. A few years ago, before children's minds and bodies came under direct attack, I also would have repeated many of its platitudes.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

True that the activist true believers have the bully pulpit, and I'm certain that higher education indoctrination has basically brainwashed those who are susceptible to "experts" having all the answers. I'm aghast at parents who actively seek to push their children in that direction - to wit, the divorced couple in TX, the father of the child desperately trying to save his son from his wife's mind-boggling insistence on transitioning the child, and apparently losing the battle. The professions, many parents and the courts have lost their minds to this travesty against children. You drew a line. They do not.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

You might want to read or listen to the Audible version of "Irreversible Damage, The Transgender Craze Seducing our Daughters, by Abigail Shrier" From the Amazon description:

Irreversible Damage is an exploration of a mystery: Why, in the last decade, has the diagnosis "gender dysphoria", transformed from a vanishingly rare affliction, applying almost exclusively to boys and men, to an epidemic among teenage girls?

Author Abigail Shrier presents shocking statistics and stories from real families to show that America and the West have become fertile ground for a "transgender craze" that has nothing to do with real gender dysphoria and everything to do with our cultural frailty. Teenage girls are taking courses of testosterone and disfiguring their bodies. Parents are undermined; experts are over-relied upon; dissenters in science and medicine are intimidated; free speech truckles under renewed attack; socialized medicine bears hidden consequences; and an intersectional era has arisen in which the desire to escape a dominant identity encourages individuals to take cover in victim groups.

Every person who has ever had a skeptical thought about the sudden rush toward a non-binary future but been afraid to express it - this book is for you.

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Paving the Way's avatar

I learned yesterday from one of their former lobbyists that diabetes promotion company Coke actually paid the NAACP to call the competitors of Coke racist. The lobbyist said this was a straight-forward transactional deal. We give you millions. You write articles calling our competitors racist. The intersection between money-changing and woke ideology is deep. Look at how much cash Black Lives Matter made by extortion. They may have an ideology and they also got rich from that ideology. Woke capitalism is evil.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

Yes, it is a corruption and way to inculcate ESG and other progressive tenets, and the BIG corporations are only too happy to fall into line, whether it screws their bottom line or not.

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GBM's avatar

Too many doubters today invoke the profit motive to explain the new dogmas. I disagree. I think that this is intellectual and spiritual corruption in its essence. It is virtual religion.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

You are correct. I completely agree. The profit motive isn't the main reason we are seeing this. Some of those in this cohort are in it for that, but many have adopted this religion because they need to be part of the tribe or are too cowardly to stand against it.

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Paving the Way's avatar

And don't forget the Conversion Therapy laws that stifle good clinical inquiry and scare good therapists away from these kids. I do not take these cases. All CT laws need to be repealed. They are getting kids killed.

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R J's avatar

Indeed. I am an "obligate homosexual", I don't think that people like me can change this pattern of attraction by any means, and I agree that some therapeutic practices in the past amounted to torture. Yet I completely support the right of anyone to try to change and the right of professionals to offer services to this end. The extension of these restrictions on free thought and expression to gender fantasies is execrable.

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Clever Pseudonym's avatar

If I were to construct (or is it de-construct?) Transmania as if it were a Russian Matryoshka doll, it would go something like this:

Smallest doll: the actual condition of "gender dysphoria" or transsexualism (or whatever u wanna call it) that has always existed, just in a very small number of people, mostly men, mostly autogynephiliacs;

Next largest doll: the New Left's march through the institutions, in which the professors and activists built up their revolution by acting as ambulance chasers of oppression, ie. finding any people marginalized and miserable for whatever reason (gay, fat, immigrant, etc) and convincing them that American capitalism is the cause and (in this case) "Queer Theory" is the cure;

Next largest doll: the social and spiritual wasteland that is 21st-century America, a postnational country populated by secular deracinated monads all desperate for attention and validation (the true currency of our time), all with massive god-shaped holes (and all this is much worse for the children glued to their phones);

Next largest doll: The NGOs, foundations and other prog orgs, that with the success of gay marriage, needed a new sacred cause to push to keep their jobs and keep the money rolling in;

Last doll (which overlaps with prior one): The needs of Pharma cos and other medical businesses to always have new streams of revenue to keep Wall St happy; the needs of a legacy media dying from old age desperate for a shiny cause and clickbait; the needs of the Democratic Party to be seen as always fighting "the great civil rights struggle of our time", no matter how ridiculous.

I think the $$ part comes in late in the game, sort of like how a venture capitalist doesn't pay up until an idea is fully fleshed and close to realization.

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Kyle Reese's avatar

and also, and also, and also. everywhere you look there's false claims pushing this fraud. claims that non supporting parents are the reason dysphoric kids are homeless is sited as a reason why parents must be kept in the dark by school employees and why kids must be allowed to marshall medical services against parent consent. is this claim true? are parents kicking kids out to the street for being "trans"? evidence to support this claim ive found so far is an article from 2016 that claims a study found this. but the study sited found the opposite. it was a 2017 survey of attitudes of 36 parents, all of whom were supportive. another study used to support this claim is a ~2010 survey of 14 gay kids from latino families in NY city. even with the small sample size, and the fact that gay sexuality and trans id are totally differnt the claim doesnt hold up. getting into the data showed a few parents werent supportive but this had no documented effect. this is fraud. also pew research says latino attitudes re gays has dramatically changed in past 15 years. seems like just more lies upon lies.

theres also the claims that trans ID bio males are at risk in mens restrooms. theres no evidence for this. the evidence actually finds trans id bio males are more at risk in womens restrooms than in mens.

the ivory tower is so easily tricked into believing trans id ppl are being attacked from all sides. turns out none of it is true.

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Matt Osborne's avatar

Still offering ONE MILLION DOLLARS for a technology capable of detecting and measuring the "gender identity" of random subjects in a controlled double-blind test.

Confident I will never pay out the prize

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Forest's avatar

Thank you, succinct and informative.

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cara's avatar

we are deep in this in new zealand. it's being taught from pre school on and we are transitioning more kids than the tavistock did. all state funded. the future looks very bleak indeed.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

New Zealand, what has happened to New Zealand??? Rhetorical question. That witch of a prime minister Jacinda Adern is an acolyte of the WEF, which probably answers my own question.

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cara's avatar

you are correct. she is an ex mormon with strong ties to the usa who was WEF trained. a perfect plant. her image as a young liberal saviour was promoted by msm internationally while any last vestiges of democracy were quietly and effectively taken away here nz. our isolation, small and docile population make us the perfect testing ground for social experiments. we are well on the way with this one.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

I truly don't believe there is any place in the world that has a government that is not corrupt or is working on behalf of the well-being of their country or nation. Ours (US) certainly does not. World governments are bought and paid for and run by some entity other than who we think we elected to run our governments. Democracy is a word that is used ad nauseam and those using it mean for us to believe it's a benevolent term. It is not. And that's why we are where we are.

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cara's avatar

yes. it has always been that money men lay behind things but nowadays it is become more apparent. nationalism with its corresponding pretence of government is a charade. eventually no one will even bother with it. the money men will just rule outright.

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HUMDEEDEE's avatar

We've been ruled by a Kakistocracy for a very long time. In my long life I've only just begun to realize it. For years I've scoffed at people claiming the assassination of JFK and 911 were inside jobs, that we never went to the moon, that the Masons et al are behind everything, but gee, ya know, I'm just not so sure anymore. I guess I finally woke up with this Covid hoax. Didn't believe it from the first and with every new piece of information that comes to light, I'm learning I was right not to buy into what they've been selling. Not to mention the evil jokes the world governments have been year after year. Trump's presidency, and believe me I don't rule him out as being part of this nefarious group, really proved to me that the US government swamp is infested with human-hating monsters. It's a mad, mad world.

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Ute Heggen's avatar

Another detail regarding the entire diagnosis: When Dr. Ray Blanchard determined his arbitrary "Blanchard Protocol" of 2 years presenting as the opposite sex to receive the Holy Grail of letters for surgery, he assumed many would drop out and did not keep track of them or study their next phase of life, whether therapy treating childhood trauma or any alternative was explored. Blanchard was actively and corruptly pursuing the DSM citation, such that insurance companies would have to pay him and other "sexologist specialists" to conduct the grand experiment. He never, for example conducted a deep analysis of the dopamine hits of the act of cross-dressing, the intrigue of costume/disguise and the pretend play acting out "I'm a member of the French Resistance" during this behavior. Every teacher in Special Education knows how to do a behavioral analysis of the positives and negatives of a certain pattern of behavior. I know this well, as my husband did this, but got "expedited" in 1995, after only one year. Here's a discussion between me and Exulansic, a desister of cross-sex ideation, on Ute Heggen YT channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rhmYp2Wq2E&t=1s

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Elizabeth Hummel's avatar

Thank you for re-posting this, great article!

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GBM's avatar

As a retired pediatric specialist, I want to give affirmation to the honesty and academic clarity of these postings. They put to shame articles like Rosenthal's in Nature. I am VERY concerned about how biased our leading journals like The New England Journal of Medicine have become. Now Nature and Science on issues of climate and transgenderism. As well, these journals do NOT invite dissenting opinions. Challenges to hypotheses and dogmas have been so important to the history of science and now are so readily discarded.

However, I am not so reassured by the even-handedness and perspectives of fellow commentators!

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cara's avatar

it is. but i keep remembering anne frank's quote that she still believed "people are good at heart." and to remind myself of all the beauty in people and nature. but still... i am glad to be born now because i shudder to think how things might be 50 years from now.

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