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Sufeitzy's avatar

As always, clean and clear. It must get exhausting arguing elementary science with non-scientists.

Scientific reality is what persists after sociologists go to their eternal rest in the oblivion of meaninglessness.

I enjoy the debate sometimes though, like a cat enjoys playing with a mouse before eviscerating it.

Philip Joseph's avatar

It is difficult to believe these individuals might actually believe the nonsense they present, however given the overwhelming plethora of diverse. insane, illogical, delusional ideas presented as reality in recent times, it is quite possible they are members of the cult of the unreality. “Follow the money” is also a universal truth that could persuade belief that these people are nothing more than opportunistic charlatans.

Ann's avatar

Excellent rebuttal! Perhaps too much to hope this one will do the trick?

Ray Andrews's avatar

Nope, because as pointed out, these folks are making confessions of their religion, not engaging in discussions of fact at all.

Pedro Frigola's avatar

Great work..not easy to dealign with people whose framework is unconstrained by reality - more philosophers need to step up and help out the biologist.

Lacey Hicks's avatar

How do you know sex in a person who doesn’t make gametes? (Gonad

dysgenesis or ovotestes)

Ray Andrews's avatar

> Yet despite the diversity of sex determination mechanisms (Bachtrog et al., 2014), the sex classes across taxa remain intelligible and comparable because they remain anchored in gamete size.

That fascinates me. Why should it be so? Take coral for example: one might predict that males and females would produce same sized gametes because they are ejected exactly the same way into exactly the same environment, so why would one expect them to be different? The male, female binary seems to transcend mechanism or environment and seems to be almost a fundamental property of life.