“...the authors did not control for mental illness when assessing suicidal attempts and deaths.”
Yes, because by definition, transgender = mentally ill. 100% incidence rate. Whether it be depression or borderline personality disorder or worse. They all have something.
I, Lotte Ingerslev, am a Danish psychotherapist who writes critical articles about gender ideology and gender medicine - on my blog transkoen.dk. My criticism of gender ideology has been mentioned in a national Danish newspaper.
I have written an extensive article about this particular study. The headline of my article is:
”New, large Danish study on the suicidal behavior of 'transgender individuals' lets down the group of people it pretends to help — Is this because the authors are scared to publish results that are not approved by the trans-activist ’commissar’ from an LGBT+ organization, who – oddly enough – is the co-author of the study?”
Here are some of the points I make in my article:
One of the 6 authors of the study is a trans activist, and the study is highly trans-ideologically biased.
The trans-activist bias in the study prevents important news from the data pool from being reported.
The reality-denying language in the study prevents us from truly examining the causes of suicidal behavior among trans-identifying people.
The obvious opportunity to explore on a national scale whether sex change operations help or harm people is wasted in the study.
In this study, certain causes of suicidal behavior are taboo.
All the data in the study are used to further a trans-activist agenda. The worst part is the study’s recommendations, which are based on white-washed results from data from self-declared trans-activist organizations, and which are dangerous for women.
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All the claims I make in my article are 100 % documented.
My article is in Danish, but you can press a button in Google and have it translated into English. (Google's translation is rather poor and inconsistent, but I think it will work for this purpose.)
The Swedish study of death records, with a "transgender" post-op group (surgeries between 1973 and 2003, Cecelia Dheine, et al, Karolinska Inst. 2011) it was found that when death records of typical Swedes were age and income matched, the post op "trans" group had a 40 TIMES higher rate of death in females compared to the control group and the post op "trans" males had a 19 TIMES higher rate of suicide that "non-trans" cohort. The researchers hid the shocking female results by combining the results of both sexes. The entire "affirming" community does not recognize the society harm they commit by broadcasting the suicide narrative as their emotional blackmail on families. When my crossdressing husband blackmailed me with his suicide threats (he's alive, a tech exec, and owns fully an apt worth 3M in NYC, so hardly "oppressed") I reminded him that is how he would always be remembered and it is a failure of your moral and ethical mindset to talk this way to me or our young sons. The "movement" never takes responsibility for furthering social contagion suicides. They venerate death. And now, women who ideate a male persona and get pregnant (what could be more heteronormative?) want to stay on the T, although we know testosterone is a carcinogen and a teratogen, especially for the female fetus.
I wonder how much research and how many articles it will take to overcome the lie that a child will commit suicide unless she/he is medically transitioned ASAP. I wonder if the gender clinics in the U.S. will applaud the fact that the suicide completion rate is so much lower than they have claimed, or if they will continue to advance the false claims. If the true rate of suicide among trans-identified people is attributable primarily to depression, will the gender treatment industry in the U.S. drop hormones and surgery as their first line approach to treating depression? When?
I am glad to see that there is research focus on psychopathology and mortality from all sources among trans-identified people. It seems like investigators who focus on these subjects do need some help with research design, especially with respect to choice of comparison groups for the trans-identified patients.
Humility. The best physicians have genuine humility. It is the ability to openly state deficits in knowledge and understanding and to seek knowledge and understanding. The only true orthodoxy lies in mathematical truth, not in elegant sophistry or the “virtue” of a hive. I am disappointed in the AMA, the APA, and the AACAP for ingesting the woke mandate of trans activism. While I support the equality of all human beings, children merit the protection of the tribe when the parents are possessed by demons. The question to be asked by all clinicians working with late onset or acute onset gender dysphoria is what is the organizing diagnosis to explain the big picture. In psychiatry, comorbidities is generally the rule and not the exception. Perhaps using multivariate regression models which consider the multiple symptoms, circumstances, and diagnoses would provide greater clarity. Psychiatry has become reductionistic, insisting that cookbook diagnoses suffice from the DSM5, famously science by committee. I have yet to meet a late onset or acute onset transgender who did not also have depression, anxiety, and significant personality disorders (usually borderline personality disorder). Is it the chicken or the egg, which came first? I believe that most of the time the identity diffusion criterion for borderline personality disorder is guided by social contagion to what we see as the explosion in transgenderism. Psychiatrists have been terrified of professional society opprobrium and loss of livelihood for not endorsing uncontested transgenderism. Now, even corporate board rooms are suggesting that everyone list their pronouns in emails signatures. There is a new “inquisition” in medicine which demands that all physicians believe the woke gospel. Any disagreement is tantamount to some -ism. I celebrate the advent of public discourse which platforms like Substack allows, and yet I still need to remain anonymous to the world.
I was a little surprised; the rate was lower than I expected. The notes I have on my observations - Trans Manifesto - the likely source of the feeling, which is the difference between the brain’s model of what the body is and what perception is - that cannot ever be made whole.
That difference creates almost undefinable and intolerable sensations of imminent catastrophe as with other mind/body mapping problems.
In the case of anorexia, no matter how thin you get, you see yourself as fat.
With trans, no matter how much to try to present as the opposite sex (makeup, surgery, social recognition) you can never see yourself as the opposite sex.
I suspect that as people realize in the process of transition that the feelings don’t resolve, they go on a path to suicide due to the possibly intolerable situation.
My original notes suggested that we might see the consistent rates of suicide at all stages of transition because the problem source is never altered.
I wonder what else my notes will be found consistent with. Another effect is also suggestibility...
I know of 4 suicides by trans widows (ex-wives of suddenly "female identifying" husbands) in my collection of the experiential details from over 50 of us. As well, this cohort reports that 4 children of cross-sex identifying fathers expressed suicidal ideation, 2 hospitalized after a serious attempt and 1 who also engaged in the self-harm of "cutting." As detransitioner, Ritchie Herron posits, this cult venerates death. It might be useful to have a linguistic analysis of how often they refer to death and suicide in their literature, as the social contagion influencing suicide attempts is well-known. The emotional blackmail of threatening suicide to family members is a phenomenon in mentally ill narcissists.
Regarding suidice rates in the transgender community, a study shows that surgery and hormones did nothing to alleviate suicide rates:
*No mental health benefit of hormonal interventions was demonstrated
*No mental health benefit of "gender-affirming" surgery was demonstrated
https://segm.org/ajp_correction_2020
“...the authors did not control for mental illness when assessing suicidal attempts and deaths.”
Yes, because by definition, transgender = mentally ill. 100% incidence rate. Whether it be depression or borderline personality disorder or worse. They all have something.
I, Lotte Ingerslev, am a Danish psychotherapist who writes critical articles about gender ideology and gender medicine - on my blog transkoen.dk. My criticism of gender ideology has been mentioned in a national Danish newspaper.
I have written an extensive article about this particular study. The headline of my article is:
”New, large Danish study on the suicidal behavior of 'transgender individuals' lets down the group of people it pretends to help — Is this because the authors are scared to publish results that are not approved by the trans-activist ’commissar’ from an LGBT+ organization, who – oddly enough – is the co-author of the study?”
Here are some of the points I make in my article:
One of the 6 authors of the study is a trans activist, and the study is highly trans-ideologically biased.
The trans-activist bias in the study prevents important news from the data pool from being reported.
The reality-denying language in the study prevents us from truly examining the causes of suicidal behavior among trans-identifying people.
The obvious opportunity to explore on a national scale whether sex change operations help or harm people is wasted in the study.
In this study, certain causes of suicidal behavior are taboo.
All the data in the study are used to further a trans-activist agenda. The worst part is the study’s recommendations, which are based on white-washed results from data from self-declared trans-activist organizations, and which are dangerous for women.
------------
All the claims I make in my article are 100 % documented.
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My article can be found here: https://www.transkoen.dk/2023/07/16/ny-stor-dansk-undersoegelse-om-selvmordsadfaerden-hos-transkoennede-svigter-den-gruppe-mennesker-man-foregiver-at-ville-hjaelpe-er-aarsagen-at-forskergruppen-ikke-to/
My article is in Danish, but you can press a button in Google and have it translated into English. (Google's translation is rather poor and inconsistent, but I think it will work for this purpose.)
The Swedish study of death records, with a "transgender" post-op group (surgeries between 1973 and 2003, Cecelia Dheine, et al, Karolinska Inst. 2011) it was found that when death records of typical Swedes were age and income matched, the post op "trans" group had a 40 TIMES higher rate of death in females compared to the control group and the post op "trans" males had a 19 TIMES higher rate of suicide that "non-trans" cohort. The researchers hid the shocking female results by combining the results of both sexes. The entire "affirming" community does not recognize the society harm they commit by broadcasting the suicide narrative as their emotional blackmail on families. When my crossdressing husband blackmailed me with his suicide threats (he's alive, a tech exec, and owns fully an apt worth 3M in NYC, so hardly "oppressed") I reminded him that is how he would always be remembered and it is a failure of your moral and ethical mindset to talk this way to me or our young sons. The "movement" never takes responsibility for furthering social contagion suicides. They venerate death. And now, women who ideate a male persona and get pregnant (what could be more heteronormative?) want to stay on the T, although we know testosterone is a carcinogen and a teratogen, especially for the female fetus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiExAAxYgso&t=9s
I wonder how much research and how many articles it will take to overcome the lie that a child will commit suicide unless she/he is medically transitioned ASAP. I wonder if the gender clinics in the U.S. will applaud the fact that the suicide completion rate is so much lower than they have claimed, or if they will continue to advance the false claims. If the true rate of suicide among trans-identified people is attributable primarily to depression, will the gender treatment industry in the U.S. drop hormones and surgery as their first line approach to treating depression? When?
I am glad to see that there is research focus on psychopathology and mortality from all sources among trans-identified people. It seems like investigators who focus on these subjects do need some help with research design, especially with respect to choice of comparison groups for the trans-identified patients.
Humility. The best physicians have genuine humility. It is the ability to openly state deficits in knowledge and understanding and to seek knowledge and understanding. The only true orthodoxy lies in mathematical truth, not in elegant sophistry or the “virtue” of a hive. I am disappointed in the AMA, the APA, and the AACAP for ingesting the woke mandate of trans activism. While I support the equality of all human beings, children merit the protection of the tribe when the parents are possessed by demons. The question to be asked by all clinicians working with late onset or acute onset gender dysphoria is what is the organizing diagnosis to explain the big picture. In psychiatry, comorbidities is generally the rule and not the exception. Perhaps using multivariate regression models which consider the multiple symptoms, circumstances, and diagnoses would provide greater clarity. Psychiatry has become reductionistic, insisting that cookbook diagnoses suffice from the DSM5, famously science by committee. I have yet to meet a late onset or acute onset transgender who did not also have depression, anxiety, and significant personality disorders (usually borderline personality disorder). Is it the chicken or the egg, which came first? I believe that most of the time the identity diffusion criterion for borderline personality disorder is guided by social contagion to what we see as the explosion in transgenderism. Psychiatrists have been terrified of professional society opprobrium and loss of livelihood for not endorsing uncontested transgenderism. Now, even corporate board rooms are suggesting that everyone list their pronouns in emails signatures. There is a new “inquisition” in medicine which demands that all physicians believe the woke gospel. Any disagreement is tantamount to some -ism. I celebrate the advent of public discourse which platforms like Substack allows, and yet I still need to remain anonymous to the world.
I was a little surprised; the rate was lower than I expected. The notes I have on my observations - Trans Manifesto - the likely source of the feeling, which is the difference between the brain’s model of what the body is and what perception is - that cannot ever be made whole.
That difference creates almost undefinable and intolerable sensations of imminent catastrophe as with other mind/body mapping problems.
In the case of anorexia, no matter how thin you get, you see yourself as fat.
With trans, no matter how much to try to present as the opposite sex (makeup, surgery, social recognition) you can never see yourself as the opposite sex.
I suspect that as people realize in the process of transition that the feelings don’t resolve, they go on a path to suicide due to the possibly intolerable situation.
My original notes suggested that we might see the consistent rates of suicide at all stages of transition because the problem source is never altered.
I wonder what else my notes will be found consistent with. Another effect is also suggestibility...
I know of 4 suicides by trans widows (ex-wives of suddenly "female identifying" husbands) in my collection of the experiential details from over 50 of us. As well, this cohort reports that 4 children of cross-sex identifying fathers expressed suicidal ideation, 2 hospitalized after a serious attempt and 1 who also engaged in the self-harm of "cutting." As detransitioner, Ritchie Herron posits, this cult venerates death. It might be useful to have a linguistic analysis of how often they refer to death and suicide in their literature, as the social contagion influencing suicide attempts is well-known. The emotional blackmail of threatening suicide to family members is a phenomenon in mentally ill narcissists.